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Hamas is conducting a "smile spin" for the West, particularly the United States. Its main objectives are to ease its political isolation, improve its position vis-à-vis the Palestinian Authority and get funds to rebuild the Gaza Strip. For the Palestinians, it stresses that its fundamental anti-Israeli pro-terrorism strategy remains unchanged.
ii) Hamas and other Palestinian organizations would be ready to cooperate with any American, international or regional effort to find a just solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict, end the so-called "Israeli occupation" and allow the Palestinian people their right to self-determination." He said Hamas expected President Obama and his special envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, to present a broader outline for conducting Middle East peace talks.
iii) Hamas would be willing to "stand by and respect" a Palestinian state with the 1967 borders as part of a broader agreement with Israel. That would be on condition that Israel agreed to the "right of return" of millions of Palestinian refugees and the establishment of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.
iv) Hamas would not be an obstacle to peace. "We," he said, "along with other Palestinian factions in consensus agreed upon accepting a Palestinian state on the 1967 lines. This is the national program. This is our program. This is a position we stand by and respect."
ii) Hamas "honored" all the PLO's previous agreements with Israel, including recognition, provided the other side [i.e., Israel] "abides by all its reciprocal promises."
iii) He refused to commit to completely abandoning violence (as the Quartet demands) but said Hamas would extend the it's "unilateral ceasefire" if the other side [i.e., Israel] agreed. He later suggested that the two sides could agree to an immediate ceasefire for a year, to build on today's "period of quietness."
iv) Asked about recognition of Israel, he said, "[T]he issue is not Israel's right to exist. We know Israel is there. It's not a matter of recognition." The distinction, he said, was semantic, between recognition and acceptance.
v) Praising the June 4, 2009 speech given in Cairo by President Obama, he said, "In general it was excellent. I do believe he's sincere." However, he wondered if Obama would yield to pressure from the fundamentalist Christians in America and the Jewish lobby. "We wait for facts on the ground," on said.
vi) Yousef had a series of demands on Israel and the United States. He said that Israel had to "lift the cruel siege" of the Gaza Strip and stop building in the West Bank settlements Bank, and that there had to be an exchange of prisoners between Israel and the Palestinians. President Obama also had to "boost the Egyptians to go ahead with national reconciliation between the Palestinians."
vii) Should the Palestinian people choose the two-state solution, he said, "Hamas would not object,", although it would prefer a single state for "all the Abrahamic faiths, maybe a Holy Land federation. We leave it to the next generation to decide what kind [of arrangement]."
viii) Ahmed Yousef tried to minimize the importance of the Hamas charter while refusing to change it, saying, "...we don't use it. Why should be change it when we never use it?" [Note : In speaking before Palestinian target audiences, Ahmed Yousef denied some of the things he was quoted as saying. See Appendix II.]
ii) He said that there was only one enemy in the region, Israel (whose existence he refused to recognize). He said that no good had come to Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas from recognizing Israel, but as far as the two-state solution went, he said that "We are with a state on the 1967 borders, based on a long-term truce. This includes East Jerusalem, the dismantling of settlements and the right of return of the Palestinian refugees." When asked what he meant by "long term," he replied "ten years."
iii) Asked why Hamas was no longer firing rockets into Israeli territory, he answered that "Not firing the rockets currently is part of an evaluation from the movement which serves the Palestinians' interest. After all, the firing is a method, not a goal. Resistance is legitimate right, but practicing such a right comes under an evaluation by the movement's leaders." [3]
ii) Today no one demands that Hamas recognize Israel. Those who demanded it in the past currently maintain contacts with Hamas, some of them covertly, after they became convinced that Hamas could not recognize Israel.
iii) "We are certain that what comes after the liberation of Palestine will not be only a state. After the liberation of Palestine a large revolution will reach everywhere...Anyone who thinks that today we are only paying the price for the liberation of Palestine is mistaken. The firm stance of Gaza is only the opening of all the doors, especially when that country, 'Israel,' ceases to exist."
Footnotes
[1] That was shown by the cessation of rocket fire during the last months, intended to give Hamas a break during which it could rebuild the Gaza Strip, increase its control over the population, and reconstruct the military-terrorist networks damaged during Operation Cast Lead.
[2] For the meaning of the term, "cultural resistance," which is actually "a culture of resistance," see Appendix II.
[3] The day after the interview was published Khaled Mashaal
claimed that the reasons he gave for the current cessation of rocket
fire had not been understood properly. He said that he had meant to
say that the decision whether or not to fire rockets depended on
Hamas' strategic evaluation, which was a product of many factors. He
said that Israel ("the Zionist entity") was always the "aggressor"
and that the rocket fire was Palestinian "self defense," and carried
out after consideration of the circumstances of the lives of the
Palestinian people (Hamas's Palestine-Info website, May 5, 2009). For
further information see our May 11, 2009 bulletin "Hamas leader
Khaled Mash'al has recently addressed the issue of rocket fire and of
terrorism ("resistance")" at
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/
eng_n/pdf/hamas_e072.pdf.
[4] http://www.codepinkalert.org.
[5] The quotations are from the website to QudsPress, and
inter-Arab news agency. They were deleted from Hamas websites such as
Palestine-info.
Dr. Reuven Erlich is Director, The Intelligence and Terrorism
Information Center.
This article was published August 3, 2009 by the
Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center
(http://www.terrorism-info.org.il.) It is archived at
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/
malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/hamas_e077.html
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